Seasonic M12ii-620 Evo 620w 80plus Bronze Fully Modular Review

Jan 12, 2019
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Help me choose the right psu for relieve life. I very unlucky because many decent psu totally overprice at my place similar seasonic focus plus gold 550w $110. Its out of my budget .So i just wanna take a skilful upkeep psu. Aid me option which one

i. Cooler main masterwatt 650w Semi modular - $69usd/tuf $72
2. Seasonic m12ii 520w evo total modular- $60
3. Super blossom silver eco 600w full modular- $77

All iii have five years warranty.

My pc spec:
I5 8400
B360m aorus gming 3
Zotac rtx 2060 amp
2xCorsair vengeance lpx 8gb 2666
Scythe kotetsu mark 2 (delta 120mm 3400rpm)
Adata xpg sx8200 pro 256gb
Wd bluish 1tb 7.2k
7x 120mm example fan

And recommend minimum psu watts for my build ?

Aeacus
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I see a lot of talk about Super Flower Silver Eco 600W being a good unit and using Leadex European union Silverish platform with no proof whatsoever (e.one thousand reputable review, Cybernetics report; except official specs). I don't know almost OP but i, personally, am non convinced near it'southward adept build quality.

Like i said above, PSUs are guilty until proven innocent. Just because PSU is made by skillful PSU OEM, doesn't mean the PSU itself is skilful. For example: Seasonic S12II-450 EVO [SSR-450GB2]. Since in that location are 0 reviews about that unit (it'south one of the latest PSUs from Seasonic), i have my reservations almost it. Another latest Seasonic unit who's review i'm looking frontward to read is Prime number AirTouch 850 [SSR-850GD-AirTouch].

The Seasonic S/M12-II has been around for years as a name. But it has seen several updates from its original group regulated platform. Even the EVO model has seen a couple of updates, but like most cars, keeps the same proper name for make recognition. They have been solid, stable workhorse psus and a staple of Seasonic worldwide as the single all-time stock replacement psu at that place is. Only there are better psus for sure, peculiarly for gaming rigs and the SuperFlower Silver Eco is ane of them.

The difference in Bronze and Silver might not be much, basically like running a 15w light bulb for an 60 minutes, and a monthly bill might not testify information technology much, but over the course of the next 3 years information technology'll be savings enough that the SuperFlower will actually cease up beingness cheaper overall. It as well has quite superior protective circuitry compared to the Seasonic. Remember of it this mode. Run the Seasonic and run the SuperFlower. Your monthly bill might exist only 2€ less (seriously chump change) with the SuperFlower. That's 24€ a year savings. Over 3 years, that SuperFlower has basically paid for itself vs the Seasonic. Annihilation after 3 years and information technology's basically paying you to use information technology, free and clear. The Seasonic past comparing would cost you an actress 70€+

Quality, protection, savings. Why'south it a hard decision?


The efficiency comparison? Are you lot serious? :ouch:

Btw, your calculations are off.
Deviation between 80+ Bronze and 80+ Silver is only 2% across the PSU load levels (20%, 50%, 100%). Given that OP PC consumes the max ability at all times, which is 460W and load on PSU is 80%; 80+ Bronze unit efficiency would exist 86% and 80+ Silvery unit efficiency would exist 88%.

In watts, 80+ Statuary unit would waste extra 64.4W as heat, making PSU to pull 524.4W from the wall.
80+ Silverish unit would waste product actress 55.2W every bit rut, making PSU to pull 515.2W from the wall.
Making the difference between units just 9.2W, not 15W.

Per your monthly electricity savings, where 15W saving would be €2; 9.2W saving would exist €1.22. Per year, saving would exist €xiv.64 and not €24. Information technology would take a little flake over 5 years and non three years for Super Bloom unit to pay for itself efficiency wise.
Besides, 5 years is the time nigh people continue their PSU before buying a new PSU.

feelinfroggy777
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I'd probably get with the master watt over the m12ii.
Dark Lord of Tech
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Super Blossom silver ECO 600w.
https://www.lelong.com.my/super-flower-600w-silver-eco-80-silver-total-modular-power-supply-easyit2u-206652752-2019-08-Sale-P.htm

Is the all-time of the bunch , spend a lilliputian extra on the Super Bloom.
https://www.super-blossom.com.tw/product-data.php?productID=83&lang=en


Features:
Silver ECO serial PSU are 80+ 230V Eu internal silver certified with 100% fully modular cablevision pattern, our R&D squad's latest innovation, a brilliant idea to maximize PSU cables & connectors management to have the best cable routing solution, also increase case chassis air flow to have best cooling for your organization.
Silvery ECO series PSU provides high efficiency & stable power output and come up with a 13cm two-way thermal control intelligent cooling fan to ensure your professional PC system volition work under heavy load, besides capable of powering your PC arrangement equipped with NVIDIA® SLI™ or ATI CrossFireX™ setup.
♦100% Full Modular Cabling Pattern For Easy Cable Management
♦fourscore PLUS ®(230V Eu Internal ) Silvery Certified, 87% ninety% 87% Efficiency At twenty% 50% 100% Rated Load
♦Loftier Performance 230V Ac Input (Active PFC)
♦Comply With ATX 12V v2.32, EPS 12V v2.92 Specification.
♦Back up All Intel / AMD Multi-Core CPU & ATX / BTX Compatible Motherboards.
♦Comply With Energy Star Standard & EuP (Free energy Using Products) Regulation
♦Over Voltage Protection / Over Temperature Protection / Over Current Protection / Over Power Protection / Short Circuit Protection / Under Voltage Protection
♦Support All Intel/AMD Multi-Cadre CPU & ATX/BTX Compatible Motherboards
♦Back up NVIDIA® SLI™ & ATI CrossFireX™ High Functioning Graphic Bill of fare
♦More than 2,000 times On/Off test
♦Unleaded Green Materials with RoHS/WEEE Compliance
♦Perfect For Professional & High Performance Gaming System
♦Exclusive Patent (Taiwan & China Patents Approved. USA, Deutschland & Japan Patents Pending)
one.ECO Intelligent Thermal Command Arrangement.
2.High Power Vertical Double Layer Main Transformer

Aeacus
Mar 21, 2015
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Cooler Chief unit would be out of the running due to information technology'south inexpensive Chinese TEAPO capacitors in information technology.
unit review: https://world wide web.kitguru.internet/components/power-supplies/zardon/cooler-primary-masterwatt-650-ability-supply-review

Leaving Seasonic and Super Blossom. Here, things get tough.

M12II-520 EVO has skillful build quality but for your build, PSU wattage amount gets a bit also close. RTX 2060 is 160W + 200W from the residuum of the build would bring total of 360W. OC the GPU and you can see up to 100W added to it, making last max ability consumption 460W. That would only exit 60W to spare from PSUs 520W max capacity.
Review wise, there are 2x reviews of M12II EVO series,
M12II-620 EVO review (in French), link: https://www.conseil-config.com/2016/test-seasonic-m12-ii-evo-620
M12II-850 EVO review (in English), link: http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?proper noun=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=356

Silver Eco unit, while having 600W capacity, doesn't have whatsoever reputable reviews out there and here, i can't tell if it's build quality is worse, equal or amend than Seasonic unit. While Super Bloom is good PSU OEM, just like Seasonic, i however need a reputable review to confirm PSU'south build quality since PSUs are guilty until proven innocent. You demand reasons to purchase a PSU, not reasons to reject a PSU.

That being said, i, personally would go with Seasonic M12II-520 EVO PSU. While it does accept less wattage capacity than Super Flower Silver Eco 600W, at to the lowest degree i tin confirm the PSU's build quality. Just don't go crazy with GPU OC.

My Haswell build (total specs with pics in my sig), is also powered by Seasonic M12II EVO series PSU but mine is 850W unit.

Karadjgne
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The Seasonic is a little underpowered for that rig, the CM is questionable quality. The SuperFlower uses the aforementioned Leadex platform used by others like Evga G2. Non actually any contest, SF past a good margin.
Aeacus
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The Seasonic is a lilliputian underpowered for that rig, the CM is questionable quality. The SuperFlower uses the same Leadex platform used by others like Evga G2. Not really any competition, SF by a proficient margin.

Whatsoever review to ostend that SF Silver Eco 600W uses Leadex platform?
Dark Lord of Tech
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They are based on the Leadex EU Silvery Platform.
Jan 12, 2019
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I dnt know which one to pick . From my search, at psu tier listing 2016, masterwatt tier iii northward seasonic tier iv. Others say seasonic over masterwatt considering seasonic use japan capacitor northward masterwatt use inexpensive capacitor. Information technology brand me headache to call up about this for the all-time. Just silver eco hard to find the review.

With tight budget, I dnt desire spend more to psu because i desire buy mech keybord and headphone. Hmm, if you all are me, which one u choice ? Sry

Dark Lord of Tech
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It's vital to take a solid high quality\reliable PSU protecting your components.
I like the Super Flower , it's worth the extra $$$.
Karadjgne
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The Seasonic Southward/M12-Two has been around for years as a name. But information technology has seen several updates from its original group regulated platform. Even the EVO model has seen a couple of updates, but like most cars, keeps the same name for brand recognition. They have been solid, stable workhorse psus and a staple of Seasonic worldwide as the single best stock replacement psu there is. Just there are meliorate psus for sure, specially for gaming rigs and the SuperFlower Silver Eco is i of them.

The difference in Bronze and Silver might not be much, basically like running a 15w light bulb for an hour, and a monthly nib might not prove it much, but over the course of the next 3 years it'll be savings enough that the SuperFlower will actually end up existence cheaper overall. It also has quite superior protective circuitry compared to the Seasonic. Remember of it this style. Run the Seasonic and run the SuperFlower. Your monthly bill might be only two€ less (seriously chump change) with the SuperFlower. That's 24€ a year savings. Over 3 years, that SuperFlower has basically paid for itself vs the Seasonic. Annihilation after 3 years and information technology's basically paying y'all to utilise it, free and articulate. The Seasonic by comparing would cost yous an extra seventy€+

Quality, protection, savings. Why's it a hard conclusion?

Aeacus
Mar 21, 2015
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I see a lot of talk about Super Flower Silver Eco 600W being a good unit and using Leadex EU Silvery platform with no proof whatsoever (eastward.g reputable review, Cybernetics study; except official specs). I don't know about OP but i, personally, am not convinced nigh it's good build quality.

Like i said above, PSUs are guilty until proven innocent. Just because PSU is fabricated past good PSU OEM, doesn't mean the PSU itself is good. For example: Seasonic S12II-450 EVO [SSR-450GB2]. Since at that place are 0 reviews near that unit (it's one of the latest PSUs from Seasonic), i accept my reservations about it. Another latest Seasonic unit who's review i'one thousand looking forward to read is PRIME AirTouch 850 [SSR-850GD-AirTouch].

The Seasonic S/M12-2 has been around for years equally a proper name. Merely it has seen several updates from its original group regulated platform. Even the EVO model has seen a couple of updates, but like virtually cars, keeps the same name for brand recognition. They take been solid, stable workhorse psus and a staple of Seasonic worldwide as the single best stock replacement psu there is. Only there are better psus for sure, especially for gaming rigs and the SuperFlower Argent Eco is ane of them.

The divergence in Bronze and Argent might not be much, basically like running a 15w calorie-free seedling for an 60 minutes, and a monthly beak might not prove it much, but over the course of the next 3 years it'll be savings enough that the SuperFlower will really end upwards existence cheaper overall. It also has quite superior protective circuitry compared to the Seasonic. Call back of it this way. Run the Seasonic and run the SuperFlower. Your monthly bill might be only two€ less (seriously chump change) with the SuperFlower. That's 24€ a twelvemonth savings. Over 3 years, that SuperFlower has basically paid for itself vs the Seasonic. Anything after 3 years and it's basically paying y'all to utilise it, free and articulate. The Seasonic by comparison would cost you an extra 70€+

Quality, protection, savings. Why's information technology a hard decision?


The efficiency comparison? Are y'all serious? :ouch:

Btw, your calculations are off.
Difference between 80+ Bronze and fourscore+ Silvery is only ii% across the PSU load levels (20%, 50%, 100%). Given that OP PC consumes the max power at all times, which is 460W and load on PSU is fourscore%; 80+ Bronze unit efficiency would be 86% and 80+ Silvery unit efficiency would be 88%.

In watts, 80+ Statuary unit would waste material extra 64.4W every bit heat, making PSU to pull 524.4W from the wall.
80+ Silverish unit of measurement would waste extra 55.2W as heat, making PSU to pull 515.2W from the wall.
Making the difference between units only nine.2W, not 15W.

Per your monthly electricity savings, where 15W saving would be €2; 9.2W saving would exist €1.22. Per year, saving would be €fourteen.64 and not €24. Information technology would take a little bit over five years and not 3 years for Super Blossom unit of measurement to pay for itself efficiency wise.
Also, 5 years is the time near people go along their PSU before buying a new PSU.

Karadjgne
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Evo barely meets Bronze standards, ranging from 83 to 85% efficiency. With that pc putting gaming loads closer to 60%, you lot'd exist looking at @84% not 86%, the Silver eco pulls 90% at 50% loads, making the departure closer to 15w than 9w. Even splitting the difference and going 4 years, end effect is you've saved enough total that the Silverish would have paid for itself in comparing to the Bronze.

http://world wide web.jonnyguru.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12704

Orion has looked at whatever tests were done, (I don't read Chinese) and didn't encounter a problem other than its @2% worse than the Gold line and the caps aren't quite equally adept as the gold line. It's still a Leadex platform, not one of their trash models and has a far better assortment of protections than the EVO.

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So the best is superflower silverish eco correct ? I will buy it . Thank you so much to all for your answers
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